keen7-9

fangorn · Post by **fangorn** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:40 am

Is there anyone here who could persuade ID to make keen 7-9 "The universe is toast" or maybe let some other professional computer game developers get the rights for the game? The Commander Keen main series would then be much more complete. They could use the same engine as they used on keen4-6, or they could make something completely new to the keen series, for example a Keen 3d RPG. It could end with the final defeat over Mortimer McMire.

Dosser · Post by **Dosser** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:31 am

Long story short: the creator would be happy to make the games, but he sold the rights to ID (3D Realms) years ago. He refuses to make them unless he has total creative control over the games (he wants the rights back), and 3D realms know that the game wouldn't work without him.

Gamer_V · Post by **Gamer_V** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:14 am

Well? Give the guy permission and creative freedom. (If only it was that simple.. sigh)

Frenkel · Post by **Frenkel** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:40 pm

3D Realms = Apogee
3D Realms != id Software

Tom Hall worked at id Software when they made Commander Keen. But he left to go work at Apogee, because he didn't like id Software's Doom. But id Software still holds the rights of Commander Keen.

fangorn · Post by **fangorn** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:46 pm

Why can't id just sell the keen rights to Tom Hall?

Dosser · Post by **Dosser** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:24 pm

Because they think the possibility of them making a game is more marketable than a one-off payment for whatever meagre amount Tom would offer them. I also think (not sure) that by selling the rights it prevents them selling the old keen games. I also honestly think that Tom doesn't have any money / he wouldn't want to pay for something he'd basically do as a hobby.

Frenkel · Post by **Frenkel** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:51 am

The Commander Keen IP is worth gold. Id doesn't want to give that away.

Gamer_V · Post by **Gamer_V** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:57 am

One day someone will use it. We'll just have to wait.

fangorn · Post by **fangorn** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:04 pm

Let's hope that. And let's hope that Tom Hall will join ID again so they could make keen together.

Frenkel · Post by **Frenkel** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:51 pm

Not gonna happen