I downloaded a version of an old game by Maxis called Simtower. The site I download from said to try running using DosBox if I got an initial "NoDisk" error. I followed the directions for Dosbox:
mount c c:\games\simtower
then I typed c: to get the promt.
The only executable file I see is SETUP.EXE and when I type it and hit enter it reads: This Program Requires Microsoft Windows
Does anyone know what this error/message means?
I'm not too savvy on the PC and was just wondering if anyone could offer any help. If you need any more info from me just ask and I'd be glad to share it if it'll help solve my problem.
Simtower message using DosBox
It won't run in DOSBox because SimTower is a Windows game, not a DOS game. Try running SETUP.EXE in Windows Explorer and hopefully it'll install.
More info on SimTower:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/simtower- ... cal-empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimTower
http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=992
More info on SimTower:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/simtower- ... cal-empire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimTower
http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=992
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jcl6543
Simtower II
I tried running from windows. That's when I got the initial error that said "NoDisk found" That's when I thought I needed Dosbox.
I will try again though when I get home from work at 20:00 est. Thank you much for replying.
I will try again though when I get home from work at 20:00 est. Thank you much for replying.
Re: Simtower II
hmm... i downloaded simtower too (and it still in my PC) and i listend to those idiots that writen "Workes w\ DosBox" and it dident ran... so i open windows explorer, opened the game folder, started Setup.exe, installed the game and ran it and it works fine...
If you ran setup.exe from a zip\rar and you closed WinZip\Rar before the install began it well delet the temporary files (lets just say that when you run a file from WinZip\Rar it extracts all the files that assciated w\ the file you ran... and when you closing WinZip\Rar it is deleting the files it have extracted...) so when you ran install and closed WinZip\Rar it deleted the cd files (The files that store the files that needed to be extracted) and it counts that you dont have a CD (Who knows, maybe these game was solled out in 2 CDs...)
in other words...
If you are running setup.exe from an archive... dont close it...
If you ran setup.exe from a zip\rar and you closed WinZip\Rar before the install began it well delet the temporary files (lets just say that when you run a file from WinZip\Rar it extracts all the files that assciated w\ the file you ran... and when you closing WinZip\Rar it is deleting the files it have extracted...) so when you ran install and closed WinZip\Rar it deleted the cd files (The files that store the files that needed to be extracted) and it counts that you dont have a CD (Who knows, maybe these game was solled out in 2 CDs...)
in other words...
If you are running setup.exe from an archive... dont close it...
Yea if you continue to have trouble with the version of SimTower you have, try downloading the version from The Underdogs link above, it may work better. 
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For those who are getting an error message regarding those disks:
Step 1: Unzip all files in a temp dir, let say in c:\sttemp
Step2:
Edit c:\sttemp\setup.inf, under header
[Source Media Descriptions]
The 3 first lines must point correctly where the install files are stored.
Original:
Alter those 3 lines to:
(use copy_paste, or DON'T MAKE ANY TYPOS !!!!)
Run setup in XP, the installer will find his files now.
Works fine.
To run the game on Xp, better set comp to W95 or W98 and 256colors.
Vista users can encounter extra 'protection' problems, better use dosbox and W3.x in it.
Install W3.x in dosbox, the game runs fine in it.
Yes, you can run W3.x perfectly in dosbox, if you didn't know that.
And as Simtower IS a W3.x game ........
Be a bit carefull before calling someone 'idiot', it could blow right back in your face. Capiche?
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In fact it even runs better in dosbox/W3.11 than in XP:
Step 1: Unzip all files in a temp dir, let say in c:\sttemp
Step2:
Edit c:\sttemp\setup.inf, under header
[Source Media Descriptions]
The 3 first lines must point correctly where the install files are stored.
Original:
Code: Select all
[Source Media Descriptions]
"1", "SimTower Disk 1", "readme.wr_", "..\disk1"
"2", "SimTower Disk 2", "simtower.e1_", "..\disk2"
"3", "SimTower Disk 3", "simtower.e2_", "..\disk3"
Code: Select all
[Source Media Descriptions]
"1", "c:\sttemp", "readme.wr_", "..\sttemp"
"2", "c:\sttemp", "simtower.e1_", "..\sttemp"
"3", "c:\sttemp", "simtower.e2_", "..\sttemp"
Run setup in XP, the installer will find his files now.
Works fine.
To run the game on Xp, better set comp to W95 or W98 and 256colors.
Vista users can encounter extra 'protection' problems, better use dosbox and W3.x in it.
WTF? this game is pre-CD, it came on 3 floppydisks, that's where the error message comes from when all are stored in one folder.badlife wrote:...and it counts that you dont have a CD (Who knows, maybe these game was solled out in 2 CDs...)
Maybe 'those idiots' aren't idiots, maybe they are right you know.badlife wrote:hmm... i downloaded simtower too (and it still in my PC) and i listend to those idiots that writen "Workes w\ DosBox" and it dident ran...
Install W3.x in dosbox, the game runs fine in it.
Yes, you can run W3.x perfectly in dosbox, if you didn't know that.
And as Simtower IS a W3.x game ........
Be a bit carefull before calling someone 'idiot', it could blow right back in your face. Capiche?
*Edit
In fact it even runs better in dosbox/W3.11 than in XP:
wardrich wrote:The contrasts in personalities will deliver some SERIOUS lulz. I can't wait.
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jcl6543
simtower III
Thank you for the help dosraider. Your solution worked like a charm. I appreciate the info and for taking the time to help those less experienced like myself.
Take care.
Take care.
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jcl6543
simtower IV
Now that I got the game to work I have two other questions that maybe someone could help out with. During game play my mouse seems to be doing its own thing making it impossible to use it. Is there a fix for that? I looked in the game settings but found none.
Also when maximized the game only takes up about half my screen I used the arrows to widen it but it only gets a little bigger. Any way to make it full screen?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Also when maximized the game only takes up about half my screen I used the arrows to widen it but it only gets a little bigger. Any way to make it full screen?
Thanks in advance for any help.
About your screen:
The game is max in 800x600, you can't get it wider.
If your normal sceenres is set higher (Usually is on modern systems) you can only get a full screen by rightclicking on your desktop, and set the res to 800x600 before you run the game. Then you will have fullscreen.
But it won't look very good.
About your mouse:
As the game is a 16bit game it uses the mouse.drv that is in \windows\system\ instead of the usual one. If your mouse (hardware) is not 100% compatible with it, it won't work good. Several modern mouses have problems on older games due that fact.
You can eventually look @ the manufacturers site if there are adequate 16 bit mouse drivers for your mouse.
But, again 'but', usually you won't find those. None writes 16 bit drivers anymore.
Possible solutions if you can't play the game:
Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or:
VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98.
VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems.
The game runs fine in both.
What you also can try:
Plug in an older 'classic' 3button mouse
That may be an USB one. If not USB: don't hotplug !
XP and Vista can handle those older mouse.
Up to you to decide if one game is worth it.
The game is max in 800x600, you can't get it wider.
If your normal sceenres is set higher (Usually is on modern systems) you can only get a full screen by rightclicking on your desktop, and set the res to 800x600 before you run the game. Then you will have fullscreen.
But it won't look very good.
About your mouse:
As the game is a 16bit game it uses the mouse.drv that is in \windows\system\ instead of the usual one. If your mouse (hardware) is not 100% compatible with it, it won't work good. Several modern mouses have problems on older games due that fact.
You can eventually look @ the manufacturers site if there are adequate 16 bit mouse drivers for your mouse.
But, again 'but', usually you won't find those. None writes 16 bit drivers anymore.
Possible solutions if you can't play the game:
Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or:
VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98.
VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems.
The game runs fine in both.
What you also can try:
Plug in an older 'classic' 3button mouse
That may be an USB one. If not USB: don't hotplug !
XP and Vista can handle those older mouse.
Up to you to decide if one game is worth it.
wardrich wrote:The contrasts in personalities will deliver some SERIOUS lulz. I can't wait.
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Larry Laffer
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Emulating mac, to play a game instead of emulating windows?
Isn't that overkill?
No wait, overkill would be emulating mac, in order to emulate windows in order to play the game... owell...
Isn't that overkill?
No wait, overkill would be emulating mac, in order to emulate windows in order to play the game... owell...
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I have only two problems with those Mac emus:
One:
You need a Rom to get them running.
Even if you can download those, when you do so it's highly illegal stuff you download.
So it seems afterall that Mac isn't much better than MS when it comes to 'open source' software.
C'mon, you should BUY a Rom for a completely absolete MacOS system emu?
Disgusting.
Two:
They aren't easy in use, NO Wally, they aren't.
One:
You need a Rom to get them running.
Even if you can download those, when you do so it's highly illegal stuff you download.
So it seems afterall that Mac isn't much better than MS when it comes to 'open source' software.
C'mon, you should BUY a Rom for a completely absolete MacOS system emu?
Disgusting.
Two:
They aren't easy in use, NO Wally, they aren't.
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jcl6543
Simtower V
Thanks again for the help guys. The small screen I can deal with but the mouse just makes the game too annoying to play.
Can you just please reiterate exactly what I need to do to fix the mouse? I read the post above and still need a little extra help. I understnad I need to get a 16 bit driver, and I've links to onbtain one but not sure how it all goes with the game?
dosraider said: Possible solutions if you can't play the game:
Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or:
VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98.
VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems.
The game runs fine in both.
What is VPC? or what is W3.x? I'm just really far away from understanding this terminology. No big deal if I can't get it to play correctly. I hate to keep asking questions.
Thanks again for the help in this thread. I appreciate the time spent on the replies.
Can you just please reiterate exactly what I need to do to fix the mouse? I read the post above and still need a little extra help. I understnad I need to get a 16 bit driver, and I've links to onbtain one but not sure how it all goes with the game?
dosraider said: Possible solutions if you can't play the game:
Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or:
VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98.
VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems.
The game runs fine in both.
What is VPC? or what is W3.x? I'm just really far away from understanding this terminology. No big deal if I can't get it to play correctly. I hate to keep asking questions.
Thanks again for the help in this thread. I appreciate the time spent on the replies.
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VPC stands for Virtual PC, which is a er... virtual PC? It's a program that allows you to set up and run another operating system without messing in any way with your current system setup. You simply set up the amount of space you want to give to the virtual RAM and HDD...
Er, yea, I can't really explain this very well, you'd be better off seeing for yourself!
*linky*(Yes, it's a Microsoft Product
)
It's really easy to learn to use(especially if you read the enclosed readme file)
As for W3.x... that's Windows 3.x(e.g. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1xWindows 3.1[/url]) which came before Windows 95!
Fact is, the alternative to DOSBox, would be to install Virtual PC, with an older Windows(3.1, 95 or 98 - yes, you need to have install disks for those), and play the game in it's native environment!
Hope this is any clearer!
Er, yea, I can't really explain this very well, you'd be better off seeing for yourself!
*linky*(Yes, it's a Microsoft Product
)It's really easy to learn to use(especially if you read the enclosed readme file)
As for W3.x... that's Windows 3.x(e.g. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_3.1xWindows 3.1[/url]) which came before Windows 95!
Fact is, the alternative to DOSBox, would be to install Virtual PC, with an older Windows(3.1, 95 or 98 - yes, you need to have install disks for those), and play the game in it's native environment!
Hope this is any clearer!
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Re: Simtower V
Wh00t, lot's of questions .......
Installing the appropiate 16 bit mouse drivers for your mouse will help to get correct mouse respons in the game. However don't expect too much of it, most 16 bit drivers for newer hardware are pretty buggy ourdays.
It will be trial and error.
DOSBOX
W3.X Howto install in dosbox.
VPC, it creates a virtual stand alone PC in your PC, you can install/run other OSes in it. Also W3.x.
Dosbox and VPC are freeware, but you will need a copy of W3.x to install in it.
And a copy of MSDos 6.22 for VPC also, as VPC emulates a 'naked' PC.As you ask a lot of questions about it, it seems you ain't very familiar with W3.x, so I doubt if that's the solution for your problems.
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Shut up Larry.
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The game is and needs 16 bits drivers. Also for your mouse.jcl6543 wrote:I understnad I need to get a 16 bit driver, and I've links to onbtain one but not sure how it all goes with the game?
Installing the appropiate 16 bit mouse drivers for your mouse will help to get correct mouse respons in the game. However don't expect too much of it, most 16 bit drivers for newer hardware are pretty buggy ourdays.
It will be trial and error.
W3.x= Windows 3.x ( can be W3.11, WfW ....)jcl6543 wrote: dosraider said: Possible solutions if you can't play the game:
Install dosbox 0.72 and win3.x in it or:
VPC + W3.x, W95 or W98.
VPC or Dosbox +W3.x will solve all your problems, as the act as a go between for that old game on newer systems.
The game runs fine in both.
What is VPC? or what is W3.x? I'm just really far away from understanding this terminology. No big deal if I can't get it to play correctly. I hate to keep asking questions.
DOSBOX
W3.X Howto install in dosbox.
VPC, it creates a virtual stand alone PC in your PC, you can install/run other OSes in it. Also W3.x.
Dosbox and VPC are freeware, but you will need a copy of W3.x to install in it.
And a copy of MSDos 6.22 for VPC also, as VPC emulates a 'naked' PC.As you ask a lot of questions about it, it seems you ain't very familiar with W3.x, so I doubt if that's the solution for your problems.
You're welcome.jcl6543 wrote:Thanks again for the help in this thread. I appreciate the time spent on the replies.
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Shut up Larry.
Score: Je: 3 - You: 0
wardrich wrote:The contrasts in personalities will deliver some SERIOUS lulz. I can't wait.
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jcl6543
Simtower
Simtower is working fine thanks to the help I received in this forum.
Thanks again for getting me up and running and on my way. Much appreciated and will certainly comeback here for any related questions. Game runs good now and keeps me amused for an hour or more a day.
take care,
Jeff - Poughkeepsie, NY
Thanks again for getting me up and running and on my way. Much appreciated and will certainly comeback here for any related questions. Game runs good now and keeps me amused for an hour or more a day.
take care,
Jeff - Poughkeepsie, NY