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Re: Various problems encountered trying tah play Z
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:00 am
by dosraider
abaddon wrote:Btw me run set up is as follows. ah have a home network, dosbox is installed in primary system running xp, ah be playing through terminal which is operating Vista. Z is installed on terminal hdd.
Explain this please.
Also:
Dosbox version?
Mount lines?
help needed
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:25 am
by moya
I'd really like to play this game on my pc. I need some help.
First, I have no original CD so I'll find an image file along the way.
Now I'm trying to do the dosbox how_to for Vista and I might need some help on the step by step. For one, it's now Dosbox 0.74 rather than 0.73 which means menu items in start menu are different - there's no 'config' menu.
This forum's my only chance to play this game. So many chlidhood memories...
...help me guys!
Re: help needed
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:14 am
by dosraider
moya wrote:Now I'm trying to do the dosbox how_to for Vista and I might need some help on the step by step. For one, it's now Dosbox 0.74 rather than 0.73 which means menu items in start menu are different - there's no 'config' menu.
Second post in Vista howto topic:
dosraider wrote:**UPDATE**
Dosbox 0.74 is released, that's the one you should have now.
Almost everything is the same, except you'll find the dosbox conf edit in 'options'.
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If for some reason you want to keep an older version of dosbox besides 0.74, no problem, they won't interfere with each other.
==> But do NOT use the ol'dosbox conf files with 0.74.
"Dosbox 0.74 options" will open dosbox conf file.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:55 am
by Guest
Thanks!
Just completed the how-to. What do I need to do now? Download an image file of the game? Plaase bear with me.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:30 am
by dosraider
It's kinda obvious that if you want to play a certain game you need that game.
If you looking to download it best is to search for a valid CD image.
Be sure that on the CD image both MsDos and Win95 versions are on it, if it's a rip with only the Winversion it won't work in dosbox (neither in Vista).
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:41 am
by moya
dosraider wrote:It's kinda obvious that if you want to play a certain game you need that game.
If you looking to download it best is to search for a valid CD image.
Be sure that on the CD image both MsDos and Win95 versions are on it, if it's a rip with only the Winversion it won't work in dosbox (neither in Vista).
I know, it's just that I'll need help with mounting and everything because I have no idea.
I've started dlding this: http://
SNIPPED
Hope it's a valid one(?), will post when dld is complete to ask for further instructions on what to do.
Thanks again.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:06 pm
by dosraider
That link is not allowed, read the rules.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:13 pm
by moya
Oops, sorry.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:11 am
by moya
So, I've downloaded an ISO image and burned the cd. Now I'm trying to follow the steps you give on an earlier post in this thread:
dosraider wrote:
1-> You install dosbox 0.72 where it belongs, this is in c:\program files
2-> You open my computer, go to your C drive, create a new folder named:
c:\dosgames\
3-> You stick your CD in the CD drive.
You open 'my computer' and you look what the drive letter is for the CDdrive.
4-> You run dosbox and you input:
mount c c:\dosgames
Then you mount the CDdrive as D: in dosbox with:
mount d x:\ -t cdrom
replace the x:\ by the real CDdrive letter under windows.
5-> in dosbox input:
d:
install
When asked install the game on C:\Z in dosbox with the sound choices I gave you before.
To run the game once it's installed:
-> run dosbox and input:
mount c c:\dosgames
mount d x:\ -t cdrom
c:
cd z
z
I've gone through 1,2,3,4 then on 5 I type 'd: install' which gives 'illegal command: install'. I see that you have
d:
install
in different lines, does that make a difference and how can I type it that way?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:40 pm
by dosraider
type D: -->hit ENTER now
type install --> hit ENTER now
BTW, as you have the ISO you don't need to burn the CD.
You can mount the ISO directly in dosbox as CDdrive D with 'imgmount'
Something as:
imgmount d "x:\path\name.iso" -t iso
It's even much better, those newer CDdrives do a lot of spin up / spin down, makes the game jerky.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:26 pm
by moya
dosraider wrote:type D: -->hit ENTER now
type install --> hit ENTER now
gives
illegal command:install
dosraider wrote:
BTW, as you have the ISO you don't need to burn the CD.
You can mount the ISO directly in dosbox as CDdrive D with 'imgmount'
Something as:
imgmount d "x:\path\name.iso" -t iso
It's even much better, those newer CDdrives do a lot of spin up / spin down, makes the game jerky.
I've already burned the cd and tried to mount it from the cd, should I just try to mount it directly anyway?
Will I replace 'mount d x:\ -t cdrom' in step 4 with 'imgmount d "x:\path\name.iso" -t iso'?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:45 pm
by dosraider
moya wrote:dosraider wrote:type D: -->hit ENTER now
type install --> hit ENTER now
gives
illegal command:install
Means something is wrong with your CD or with your mount.
No idea what precisely.
Screenshot of the files on the CD could help maybe.
moya wrote:
dosraider wrote:
BTW, as you have the ISO you don't need to burn the CD.
You can mount the ISO directly in dosbox as CDdrive D with 'imgmount'
Something as:
imgmount d "x:\path\name.iso" -t iso
It's even much better, those newer CDdrives do a lot of spin up / spin down, makes the game jerky.
I've already burned the cd and tried to mount it from the cd, should I just try to mount it directly anyway?
Will I replace 'mount d x:\ -t cdrom' in step 4 with 'imgmount d "x:\path\name.iso" -t iso'?
Yes. Of course replace x:\path\ with real drive letter and eventually folder where ISO is stored.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:25 pm
by moya
dosraider wrote:
Means something is wrong with your CD or with your mount.
No idea what precisely.
Screenshot of the files on the CD could help maybe.
What I do step by step:
Run DOSBox 0.74
Z:\> SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 D6
Z:\>mount C ''C:\Users\Username\oldgames''
Drive C is mounted as local directory C:\Users\Username\oldgames\
Z:\>C:
C:\>
(my CDdrive letter is f so I type)
mount d f:\ -t cdrom
(which gives =>)
MSCDEX installed.
Drive D is mounted as CDRom f:\
C:\>
(then when I try to install, as I told you.)
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Screenshot of files on CD
Should I try running the windows setup?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:48 pm
by dosraider
Had that one before, look at your files, this ain't the dosversion.
dosraider wrote:That file listing doesn't look at all as the original dosgame CD Z......
n those are typical windows file extensions, nothing dos like there.
Me thinks you have downloaded the Z and Z Expansion Kit, that's a win95 adaptation of Z
http://www.mobygames.com/game/z-and-z-expansion-kit
Try to burn the CD and run that 'setup' directly in Windows.
If it's gonna run in Vista : no idea ..... sorry.
Can't you ask more info where you downloaded the game?
[Edit]
What you could try:
Mount again in dosbox, get to the D; prompt, do a
cd z
dir/w
And look what you get, with a bit of luck the dosgame is there (or the 'install') , but I admit that's a long shot..... I simply don't know how they adapted the game to W95, sometimes they simply added a win installer on the original dosgame.
And read that 'readme' on the CD, maybe there is some more info in there, ya never know.
I simply don't know if it's possible to run the windows version in Vista, kinda doubt it.
What's in that 'Z' folder on the CD?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:39 pm
by moya
Windows version doesn't work, installs normally, then asks for the cd when trying to play it, furthermore it's in spanish (or italian lol).
Screenshot of insides of 'Z' folder on CD
Btw the discription of the ISO I dlded said
'Full-CD.iso file. U may have to use a DosBOX to run this game on WinXP, or Vista.'
Can I please PM you about something?
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:03 pm
by dosraider
Now that ISO description is wrong, that's no dos game, windows only.
And in that 'Z' folder its seems to be the level editor or expansion kit.
PM me. ...? If you want, but no pron links please.
[Edit]
BTW that Win version of Z should run without any problems in VPC2007-W98SE.
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:08 pm
by moya
You have a PM.
What's VPC2007-W98SE??
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:43 pm
by dosraider
You have a PM.
VPC= Virtual PC.
It's a soft that creates a virtual PC on your PC and allows you to run older OSses in it.
Example:
Your Vista would be 'host' and in VPC you can run W98SE as 'guest' OS.
Works pretty good for older W9X games.
VPC is free for registred Windows users and a native MS Windows software.
You can download it dirtectly from MS
VPC @ MS downloadcenter
Of course you'll need W98(SE) install CD, that's yours to find.
W95 works also, but is more troublesome, that's why I advise W98SE.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:06 pm
by moya
Right, that's something to try then if I can't find a dos version. Maybe eventually I'll be able to play Z
You have a PM.
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:56 am
by moya
So, I've found an ISO than I know for a fact is valid. I couldn't mount the ISO directly so I burned a cd, then did the installation through DOSBox.
But now I can't do the mounting.
Drive C is already mounted as local directory C:\Users\(my username)\oldgames
Inside the oldgames folder I can see there's now a DOSGAMES folder created, with Z in it.
So I do mount d f:\ -t cdrom
gives
MSCDEX installed.
Drive D is mounted as CDRom f:\
c:
cd z
gives
Unable to change to: z.
